Why per-channel FP8 (and not block-128)
The official Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8 uses block-128 FP8 (
weight_block_size [128, 128]
). In vLLM, the CUTLASS block-scaled FP8 GEMM requires SM90+
(Hopper) and DeepGEMM requires SM90/SM100, so on Ada (SM 8.9, e.g. RTX 6000
Ada, L40S, RTX 4090) block-128 FP8 falls back to a Triton kernel. Per-channel
FP8 with dynamic per-token activations uses the CUTLASS FP8 GEMM on SM 8.9
(CUDA >= 12.4) and also runs on Hopper and Blackwell.
Source: vLLM v0.19.0, csrc/quantization/w8a8/cutlass/scaled_mm_entry.cu
(cutlass_scaled_mm_supports_fp8 vs cutlass_scaled_mm_supports_block_fp8).
Deployment with vLLM
Requires vLLM >= 0.17.0.
vllm serve AzatAI/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8-dynamic \
--tensor-parallel-size 2 \
--reasoning-parser qwen3 \
--enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder \
--enable-prefix-caching \
--speculative-config '{"method": "mtp", "num_speculative_tokens": 3}' \
--max-num-batched-tokens 32768 \
--default-chat-template-kwargs '{"enable_thinking": false}'
The MTP head is included (model_mtp.safetensors), so --speculative-config
with method: mtp works out of the box; vLLM resolves the drafter as
Qwen3_5MTP and shares the target's embeddings and lm_head. Under
speculative decoding vLLM ignores min_p and logit_bias.
Thinking is on by default in the chat template; the flag above turns it off
by default, and clients re-enable it per request with
chat_template_kwargs={"enable_thinking": true} (vLLM >= 0.19 returns it in
message.reasoning). Drop the flag to keep the upstream default.
Measured on 2x RTX 6000 Ada (Ada, SM 8.9), vLLM 0.19.0, TP=2
Single stream, greedy unless noted, max_tokens=512:
Table with columns: Metric, without MTP, with MTP k=3| Metric | without MTP | with MTP k=3 |
|---|
| decode, prose | 38.7 tok/s | 63.3 tok/s |
| decode, code (pytest task) | - | 103 tok/s |
| decode, sampled chat (temperature 0.7) | - | 50-71 tok/s |
| 36k-token prompt, time to 16 output tokens, uncached | 10.2 s | 9.6 s (chunk 32768) |
| same prompt, prefix-cached | 0.7 s | 0.6 s |
| GPU memory per card at 0.9 utilization |
MTP acceptance: mean 2.56 tokens per step on prose (per-position 0.75 / 0.49 /
0.33), 3.6 on code. Decode without MTP is memory-bandwidth-bound on Ada
(~18.4 GB of weights per GPU per token). vLLM selects
CutlassFP8ScaledMMLinearKernel for the linear layers on SM 8.9.
Creation
from compressed_tensors.utils import save_mtp_tensors_to_checkpoint
from transformers import AutoProcessor, Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration
from llmcompressor import oneshot
from llmcompressor.modifiers.quantization import QuantizationModifier
MODEL_ID = "Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B"
SAVE_DIR = "Qwen3.8-27B-FP8-dynamic"
model = Qwen3_5ForConditionalGeneration.from_pretrained(MODEL_ID, dtype="auto")
processor = AutoProcessor.from_pretrained(MODEL_ID)
recipe = QuantizationModifier(
targets="Linear",
scheme="FP8_DYNAMIC",
ignore=[
"re:.*lm_head",
"re:visual.*",
"re:model.visual.*",
"re:.*mlp.gate$",
"re:.*embed_tokens$",
"re:.*shared_expert_gate$",
"re:.*linear_attn.*",
],
)
oneshot(model=model, recipe=recipe)
model.save_pretrained(SAVE_DIR)
processor.save_pretrained(SAVE_DIR)
save_mtp_tensors_to_checkpoint(MODEL_ID, SAVE_DIR)
Run on CPU (no GPU needed for FP8_DYNAMIC); ~250 GB of RAM headroom is
comfortable for the 55.6 GB BF16 source.
Evaluation
No evaluation suite has been run on this checkpoint yet. RedHatAI reports
near-identical scores for the same recipe on the Qwen3.6-35B-A3B sibling; treat
that as an indication, not a measurement for this model.
License
Apache-2.0, inherited from the base model. The upstream LICENSE file is
included unchanged.